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Mega Pokemon are here for Pokemon Go raids!

Mega Blastoise, Mega Venusaur, Mega Charizard X, and Mega Charizard Y will be the first Mega Pokemon in raids Mega Pokemon are significantly tougher than other bosses so make sure to bring the correct Mega Pokemon Counters!
Mega Pidgeot is also current available and Mega Houndoom will be here on September 29th at 1pm Pacific Time.

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Massive 89% Mega Boost uncovered in some cases!

Here's what we know right now

  • Mega Raids are the same as Tier 5 raids with 300 seconds and 15000hp bosses
  • Mega Pokemon do NOT have the same stat reduction if over 4000 cp
  • Mega Raids will give you Mega Energy for the Pokemon you defeat and a non-mega version of that Pokemon
  • You use Mega Energy to transform your Pokemon for a few hours after which it will transform back to its normal self
  • Mega transforms after the first require less energy
  • Mega Pokemon provide a 10% boost to all Pokemon in the raid and 30% boost to all Pokemon using the same move types as the Mega Pokemon
  • Mega boost only applies in multi player raids
  • Mega boost does NOT apply to the mega itself but there is a CP booting bugs that will boost the mega in some cases all the way up to 89%!
  • Mega Pokemon will rotate through raids
  • Tier 2 and Tier 4 raids have been removed and their rewards moves to Tier 1 and Tier 3 raids
Pokebattler currently has implemented the correct stats for all Mega Pokemon and has implemented the Mega Pokemon boost.
September raids have been confirmed, and we have a strong suspicion about the first October raid
  • Shiny Articuno is in raids from September 18th to September 25th.
  • Shiny Zapdos will be in raids from September 25th to October 2nd.
  • Shiny Moltres is confirmed for raids from October 2nd to October 9th.
  • Shiny Giratina Origin is confirmed for October 9th through October 23rd.
  • A surprise Pokemon will be available for a Halloween event. We suspect Shiny Darkrai to fit the spooky theme

The EX Raid Regigigas is currently cancelled

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Mega TierMega Raid

The current mega raids are the best way to obtain mega energy to power up the strongest pokemon! They are often done with groups of 6-10 level 30-40 players. Some intrepid experts have done some of these raids with as few as 2-5 players.

BossCPAttDefHP
Mega Blastoise5424322019915000
Mega Charizard X5326022718015000
Mega Charizard Y6163126317915000
Mega Houndoom5382624016515000
Mega Pidgeot4980123315015000
Mega Venusaur5065320220615000
Tier 5Legendary Raid

The current legendary raids are the best way to obtain strong pokemon! They are often done with groups of 6-10 level 30-40 players. Some intrepid experts have done some of these raids with as few as 2-5 players.

BossCPAttDefHP
Articuno4016516319815000
Giratina Origin4177618915915000
Moltres4560921015415000
Zapdos4641821115815000
Tier 3Easy Group Raid

Tier 3 raids are targeted at groups of 2 level 30-40 players. They can be soloed by a level 40 player with a little luck and perfect play with awesome Pokemon.

BossCPAttDefHP
Dragonite243432021553600
Exeggutor - Alola190531781223600
Lapras148471311373600
Onix9429731803600
Pinsir213061841433600
Tier 1Easy Solo Raid

Tier 1 raids are quite easy to defeat by yourself. A level 20 player with imperfect pokemon should be able to beat this by themselves. These raids are a good way to collect candy for pokemon that are not common in your area.

BossCPAttDefHP
Doduo419510358600
Ekans32407567600
Klink32276781600
Timburr36868961600
Wailmer33699049600
Future Mega TierFuture Mega Raid

These mega raids are not in the game yet.

BossCPAttDefHP
Mega Abomasnow4482420116215000
Mega Absol4852025911415000
Mega Aerodactyl5639924217715000
Mega Aggron5968720627315000
Mega Alakazam6747430116415000
Mega Altaria4430618718415000
Mega Ampharos5587624417215000
Mega Audino3162112720015000
Mega Banette5298025813815000
Mega Beedrill4972425112815000
Mega Blastoise5424322019915000
Mega Blaziken5699427114415000
Mega Camerupt4618621115615000
Mega Charizard X5326022718015000
Mega Charizard Y6163126317915000
Mega Diancie6913228219715000
Mega Gallade6537026919315000
Mega Garchomp6674527918715000
Mega Gardevoir6523726919215000
Mega Gengar6521528716915000
Mega Glalie4423621014415000
Mega Gyarados6086024220615000
Mega Heracross6594127518815000
Mega Houndoom5382624016515000
Mega Kangaskhan4794820617715000
Mega Latias6576524024615000
Mega Latios6858527620215000
Mega Lopunny5504523418015000
Mega Lucario5486625615015000
Mega Manectric5134623715315000
Mega Mawile3786916018315000
Mega Medicham3752917315315000
Mega Metagross6726524824015000
Mega Mewtwo X8050933718715000
Mega Mewtwo Y8436834819215000
Mega Pidgeot4980123315015000
Mega Pinsir6146925219415000
Mega Rayquaza7520231918215000
Mega Sableye3090013118215000
Mega Salamence6491825621015000
Mega Sceptile5816826415815000
Mega Scizor5861523220915000
Mega Sharpedo4694824012515000
Mega Slowbro4845218821615000
Mega Steelix5141417927015000
Mega Swampert5571023518415000
Mega Tyranitar6769125522915000
Mega Venusaur5065320220615000
Future Tier 5Legendary Raid

These tier 5 raids are not in the game yet! Their stats and moves are still subject to change.

BossCPAttDefHP
Arceus4928619919915000
Arceus - Bug4928619919915000
Arceus - Dark4928619919915000
Arceus - Dragon4928619919915000
Arceus - Electric4928619919915000
Arceus - Fairy4928619919915000
Arceus - Fighting4928619919915000
Arceus - Fire4928619919915000
Arceus - Flying4928619919915000
Arceus - Ghost4928619919915000
Arceus - Grass4928619919915000
Arceus - Ground4928619919915000
Arceus - Ice4928619919915000
Arceus - Poison4928619919915000
Arceus - Psychic4928619919915000
Arceus - Rock4928619919915000
Arceus - Steel4928619919915000
Arceus - Water4928619919915000
Keldeo4845721716315000
Resolute Keldeo4845721716315000
Black Kyurem5600925615615000
White Kyurem5600925615615000
Landorus Therian5185824015315000
Aria Meloetta5028020918915000
Pirouette Meloetta4955722416015000
Shaymin4133517717715000
Shaymin - Sky4547721814215000
Thundurus Therian5036924413915000
Tornadus Therian4425619916115000

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Update! Massive Bug with Pokemon Go Megas: All Megas have their power ups applied twice for up to 145% buff!

September 13, 2020 - celandro
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Pokebattler published an article on Friday evening with evidence of what appeared to be a 85.9% mega boost being applied in some situations.  This article was a week worth of work attempting to narrow down what was going on. Additional research both by ourselves and others has happened and our theory regarding move types was (GASP!) wrong. 

The Curious Case Of Mega Beedrill

As the article was going to press, a new bug was found with the release of Mega Beedrill.  Mega Beedrill has a special effect this week when transformed, it changes to level 44. However, in some cases, when transforming a Beedrill, it was showing extremely high CPs.  Great work was done by /u/hazyd to determine exactly how it worked in a mostly ignored reddit post.  What is happening is every power up that was applied to the Beedrill after evolving but before being transformed is being applied again upon transformation. For example, a level 1 Beedrill has a starting multiplier of 0.094.  A level 40 Beedrill has a multiplier of 0.7903.  With the bug, a level 40 Mega Beedrill that was once a level 1 Beedrill will have a multiplier of  1.4866, a 88.1% buff when transformed! 

Ya know, 88.1% and 85.9% sure are close!

Due to the way damage formulas and counting attacks work, it is very difficult to validate theories, especially when you can only find 1 Pokemon that it applies to!  It turns out the Pokemon that was reliably repeating the damage boost was a level 1 starter that has been leveled up to level 40 and then best buddied.  So that means, there almost certainly is only 1 bug not 2.

 

Current Mega Pokemon Mechanics

 As of 9/13/2020, the following are the current Mega Pokemon mechanics and Bugs

  • Intended – Mega Pokemon buff of 30% applies to other attacking Pokemon in the raid if the move being used matches one of the types of the Mega Pokemon but only while the mega Pokemon is active in the battle.
  • Intended – Mega Pokemon buff of 10% applies to other attacking Pokemon in the raid if the move being used does not match one of the types of the Mega Pokemon but only while the mega Pokemon is active in the battle.
  • Intended – If there are 2 Megas in the raid and they match each others move types, the Megas will each boost each other by 30%.
  • Bug – All power ups that have been applied to a Pokemon are applied a second time when they are transformed. That means a level 1 Pokemon with a multiplier of 0.094 that is leveled up to level 40 and then transformed will have a multiplier of 0.7903 + (0.7903 – 0.094) = 1.4866 or a 88.1% buff.
  • Bug? – Mega Pokemon DO NOT buff themselves with their mega boost, only their other party members.
  • Intended + Bug – If 2 Megas are in the raid and they match each others types and those Megas were originally level 1, the 88.1% and the 30% stack for a total of +144.5% damage

Effect of this bug can be calculated using this spreadsheet from Shiva:

 

Is This A Bug Now?

The double power up bug is absolutely a bug of course which we expect to be fixed. Normally server side CPMs and damage calculations are not shown directly to the player. In this unusual case, it was exposed which made figuring out what was going on much simpler and certainly less annoying than counting attacks in videos.  

The real question is whether Megas should boost themselves or not. Currently, there is text that displays when the mega enters the raid that states that the moves should be buffed, but they are not. This makes Megas significantly less powerful in solo situations but is certainly confusing to the player. Why show a message that says moves are boosted when they are not?

 

Video Analysis

20 different raids were performed and analyzed. All mechanics have been fully confirmed and are 100% reproducable.

See the full spreadsheet for all the gory details

Mega Beedrill (1->44) vs. Tier 3 Absol

Our first example shows an enormous 88% buff.  It takes 24 Infestations and 12 X-Scissor for a level 44 Mega Beedrill to defeat the Absol. 

Verdict: Massive Bug

Mega Venusaur (1->41) vs. Tier 3 Alola Raichu

Our second example (from August 28th!) shows that a level 41 Mega Venusaur that used to be a level 1, gets the same 88% buff.  It takes 81 88% boosted Vine Whips and 11 88% boosted Frenzy Plant to defeat the Alola Raichu.

Verdict: Massive Bug!

Boosted Mega Venusaur vs. Tier 1 Kirilia

Our third example confirms that megas receive a 30% boost from other megas. A level 31 never powered up Mega Venusaur gets a 30% boost from his buddy. It takes 18 Vine whips to defeat the Kirlia.

Verdict: Working as Intended!

Mega Venusaur vs. Tier 1 Gothica

Our fourth example confirms that megas do not receive a 30% boost from themselves despite combat text that says they do. A level 31 never powered up Mega Venusaur gets no boost from his buddy. It takes 30 Vine whips to defeat the Gothica.

Verdict: Bug

Boosted Mega Beedril w/mega buddy vs. Tier 3 Absol

Our final example confirms that megas receive a combined 145% boost from other megas plus the double power up bug. A level 44 (once level 1) Mega Beedrill gets a 30% boost from his buddy. It takes just 10 Infestation and 4 X-Scissor to defeat the Absol

Verdict: Mega Bug!

In Conclusion

Whether these bugs remain for any length of time, or Niantic decides to fix them in the very near future remains to be seen. In the meantime, if you happen to be able to take advantage of this bug, it may make for some pretty entertaining videos of you pulverizing your opponent. We expect some very crazy duos to come out in the next few days until this is patched.  Hopefully Niantic will agree that Megas not buffing themselves is confusing and should also be fixed. 

Thanks so much to Shiva, Olafbrows and CzystyBeton for their hard work and raid passes  This sort of research is long, slow and arduous but the result is appreciated by all!

 

PS. Due to popular demand the Pokebattler Raid Party App now also has a mega toggle.

 

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