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Kyogre Raid Counters – Guide and Infographic
June 18, 2019 - celandro
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Kyogre

Kyogre is returning yet again! Originating in Gen 3, Kyogre is locked in eternal conflict with Groudon in a titanic war of expansion between land and sea. It is the closest thing the Pokemon Mythos has to a god of the Ocean, and his power lives up to that reputation. Did we mention it comes in pink? It’s unknown if shiny rates will be raised, but here’s hoping! Even if you’re not a shiny hunter, Kyogre remains atop as the absolute king of Water Types, with no Water Starter Community Day this far having dethroned him. If any Pokemon doesn’t like to get splashed on, you’ll want a team of Kyogre in reserve to slam them under the tidal wave of its legendary force.

AVAILABILITY: Tuesday, June 18, 2019, at 1 p.m. to Thursday, June 27, 2019, at 1 p.m. PDT (GMT −7)

Kyogre Usefulness

  • WaterfallHydro Pump- Kyogre is, bar none, the best water type attacker in the game with this moveset. The only exception is when duel typing gives some kind of an advantage. The most notable example of this is Gyarados having overall better survivability against Ground Type attacks-but still falling behind Kyogre in raw damage. Even so, even at level 20 Kyogre can outclass a plethora of competition water types. Heck, without even using it’s charge move it has higher DPS than Vaporeon. If you want the best water type that a raid pass can buy, Kyogre is the Orca to go for.

Kyogre Movesets

Kyogre is a tough Raid Pokemon with two main weaknesses: Electric and grass. In most cases, you’ll need at least 4 trainers with strong electrics to take it down. His quick move is always Waterfall which simplifies things nicely. But he does have 3 different types of charge moves:

  • Blizzard – by far the most difficult as it hits incredibly hard against Grass Types and Zapdos
  • Thunder -a generally weak move without STAB, Still packs quite the punch from Kyogre against Zapdos.
  • Hydro Pump -a strong move but resisted by the best counters, being able to tank one of these makes a huge difference.

All of Kyogres Movesets pose difference challenges, and massively shake up the rankings, leading to much inconsistency. If you have the luxury to choose, stick with the non-Zapdos Electric types.if moveset is a Mystery.

General Kyogre Counters

Kyogre takes 1.6x damage from Grass / Electric .

Kyogre can be beaten by 3 players in optimal weather, with max friendship and perfect level 40 counters or by 5 unfriended players using level 20 counters from this guide. When caught, Kyogre will be between 2260 and 2351 CP without a weather boost. In Rainy weather, Kyogre will be between 2825 and 2939 when caught.

Raikou


Thunder Shock / 

Wild Charge
Requires 3 players with level 35 Raikou   
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Damage
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Consistency

All hail the strongest and most useful electric Pokemon in the game! He is the strongest counter for Kyogre by far and your very best use of stardust. Even your relatively low Raikou may beat out your other potential counters against every kind of charge attack Kyogre has. Check the raid guide and our advice tool to see which of your Raikou are worth powering up! In addition, Raikou’s power also makes it have some top tier survivability, managing to outdo the more burly Pokemon of Electivire and Magnezone against all odds-as well as every other top counter on average.

Electivire


Thunder Shock / 

Wild Charge
Requires 4 players with level 35 Electivire
 
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Consistency

Electivire is a newcomer to the list and quite expensive to acquire given the rarity of Electabuzz in addition to needing a Sinnoh Stone. But it actually is your best non-legendary electric type, and storms in as second best against the likes of Kyogre! Only inches behind Raikou in raw damage. Electabuzz is a nesting species, so keep on the lookout for one! Curiously, it actually slips ahead of Raikou against Blizzard and Thunder, but gets knocked down against Hydro Pump due to not being able to tank a single hit of it with Stab.

Magnezone


Spark / 

Wild Charge
Requires 4 players with level 35 Magnezone
 
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Consistency

Magnezone is in a similar boat to Electivire, but skews a but more towards trying to match Raikou for Suitability rather than raw Damage. That said, it still is the 3rd best on average. Its active resistance to Blizzard makes to the bulkiest option against that moveset with only inches lost in damage compared to the two previous Electric stars.

Luxray


Spark / 

Wild Charge
Requires 4 players with level 35 Luxray
 
•⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Consistency

Luxray is extremely hard to get a hand on, given you need to acquire nearly 125 candy for a raid exclusive Pokemon-and that’s before we account for powering it up!  That aside, Shinx is quite beloved, and who could fault someone for adoring it’s design. If you really want to go for it, they manage to hold their own as equals with Zapdos, so nothing too shabby at all

Zapdos


Thunder Shock / 

Thunderbolt
Requires 4 players with level 35 Zapdos
 
•⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Consistency

Baby Raikou puts a decent show against Kyogre although he falls a bit down the list against Blizzard. Using rare candies on Zapdos is quite an expensive venture, and it can often be better used on Raikou. But second place against Hydro Pump leaves it still quite amazing. Thunder Shock however is legacy and may not be easy to acquire.

Roserade


Razor Leaf / 

Grass Knot
Requires 4 players with level 35 Roserade
 
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency

Rosarade has crazy damage for something so accessible, but it abhors Blizzard which it can’t tank at all. It also requires a Sinnoh Stone to evolve. Conversely, getting high level Roselia’s is fairy easy and you only need to evolve it one stage up from there!

Alternative Kyogre Counters

Mewtwo


Psycho Cut / 

Thunderbolt
Requires 4 players with level 35 Mewtwo
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Consistency
Mewtwo’s Psychic and Electric  combo is useful against Kyogre given it isn’t weak against any of it’s movesets. That said, Mewtwo really have many other roles it is better suited for, so powering up a dedicated Electric one may not be the best use of resources.

Tangrowth


Vine Whip / 

Solar Beam
Requires 4 players with level 35 Tangrowth
 
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Consistency

Tangrowth, that madlad, is probably the only grass type on this list who can earnestly tank a Blizzard head on. It doesn’t make its way to the top of Grass Lists much, but it’s deep rooted body has a lot of advantages here against type weakness! Another Sinnoh stone evolution however, and one far less common than Roselia.

Sceptile


Bullet Seed / 

Frenzy Plant
Requires 4 players with level 35 Sceptile
Bullet Seed / Leaf BladeRequires 4 players with level 35 Sceptile
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency

Sceptile is also very high up on this list! While it is marginally better to use the community day move of Frenzy Plant, Leaf Blade only does marginally worse here. Fury Cutter isn’t the preferred fast move as it once was, since super effective damage got a buff some time ago.

Breloom


Bullet Seed / 

Grass Knot
Requires 4 players with level 35 Breloom
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency

Breloom is another exclusive move Pokemon sadly. Without Grass Knot they fall down the list towards Exeggutor, but are still usable. Similar disdain for Blizzard as the aforementioned Grass types but can muster up even less bulk than them.

Leafeon


Razor Leaf / 

Leaf Blade
Requires 4 players with level 35 Leafeon
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency

This fresh new Eeveelution is handy against both Kyogre and Groudon! Leafeon is a new addition to the roster, and one that is very accessible! Provided you have 200 coins to drop on a mossy lure, or use the naming trick! Name an Eevee “Linnea” and you can get it without any other work when you evolve. Watch out though! This naming trick only works once, so make it count.

Jolteon


Thunder Shock / 

Discharge
Requires 4 players with level 35 Jolteon
 
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Consistency

Jolteon may not have to worry about the type weaknesses that plague most of the other counters here, but its overall frailty means it won’t be tanking many charge attack hits regardless. On average Leafeon is actually the superior choice if you are stuck between a choice on which way to evolve  In Blizzard however Jolteon rises to the 6th best option!

Latios


Dragon Breath / 

Solar Beam
Requires 4 players with level 35 Latios
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Consistency

So dragon types take less damage from water AND electric, and with his Solar Beam charge move, this unique combo of dragon and grass makes Latios an exciting counter! Despite being off type however, they’re still just as scared of Blizzard as the Grass Types. Vs Hydro Pump Grass Types beat it, Vs Thunder Electric types do, but the consistency resisting both matchups gives him a place.

Venusaur


Vine Whip / 

Frenzy Plant
Requires 4 players with level 35 Venusaur
 
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Consistency

Venusaur does well against electric and water but like its slightly stronger grass bro, Alolan Exeggutor, who falls to the wayside under Blizzard. Frenzy Plant isn’t enough for them to make the cuz VS Blizzard compared to other Grass Types. This is due to his bulk not being enough to survive-meaning grass types that have higher Damage will be more important to use your time alive well. He absolutely drinks up Hydro Pump though!

Victreebel


Razor Leaf / 

Leaf Blade
Requires 4 players with level 35 Victreebel
 
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Accessibility
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Consistency
Here’s another place where Raw DPS becomes the determining factor when bulk doesn’t help you survive! Against Blizzard Victreebel on average participates more than Venusaur! Victreebel is also a lot easier to acquire despite its frailty.

Shiftry


Razor Leaf / 

Leaf Blade
Requires 4 players with level 35 Shiftry
 
•⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Accessibility
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Consistency

Similar story to the other Grass types on the list, It’s dark typing doesn’t provide any additional hindrance or shelter. At least it’s pretty easy to acquire!

Deoxys


Charge Beam / 

Thunderbolt
Requires 4 players with level 35 Deoxys
 
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Damage
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency
Since almost all counters will die to Kyogres charge move, Deoxy’s great neutral Damage can show! It’s actually the 8th best choice against Blizzard. It’s got some huge fragility problems and is one of the least accessible options, but pretty good given it has no STAB.

Exeggutor


Bullet Seed / 

Seed Bomb
Requires 4 players with level 35 Exeggutor
 
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Accessibility
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Consistency

Exeggutor makes a good stand against Kyogre’s Hydro Pump move, but can’t stand up well enough to Thunder. The real problem is Blizzard which knocks him clear out of the top 24 counter list despite acceptable performance in general. Confusion isn’t too much of a downgrade if you can’t snag Bullet Seed, and Solar Beam is equivalent to Seed Bomb if you can live long enough to fire it off.

Exeggutor – Alola


Bullet Seed / 

Seed Bomb
Requires 4 players with level 35 Exeggutor – Alola
•⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Bulk
•⭐⭐☆☆☆ Damage
•⭐⭐⭐☆ Accessibility
•⭐☆☆☆☆ Consistency

Alolan Exeggutor takes everything I just said about Exeggutor and magnifies it. His Dragon Typing is a blessing a curse: He DOUBLE resists Water attacks (and normal resists electric attacks) but is also double weak to Ice attacks as well. He performs phenomenally against Water Moves due to his bulk in being able to tank a Hydro Pump- and absolutely awful against Ice moves due to all that bulk evaporating in chilly weather. In short, you really need to know the weather when determine if you want to use this tall boi, and often just hedging your bets with a ton of electric types will work out equally well.

 

Closing Thoughts

If it need be said again, Kyogre remains the best overall water type, with a beautiful shiny form and monstrous reputation! So plenty of reason to look forward to this one folk! It certainty will be contining this chain of legendaries on a high note! Here’s hoping it’s Space Dragon Babysitter gets some Shiny spotlight following Groudon!

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